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		<title>Comment on Bar chart with a log axis, &#8220;NEVER&#8221;! says the Biz Intel Guru by John Munoz</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/bar-chart-with-a-log-axis-never-says-the-biz-intel-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-4626</link>
		<dc:creator>John Munoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sanjay,

Thanks for making the trip over here to post your comments. 

I think it would be great to know the use case that the requesting user had in mind. I will bet you that there is a better alternative. And if there is a better alternative, then shouldn&#039;t we suggest it to them? Isn&#039;t that &quot;The Power to Know&quot;?

If there isn&#039;t a better alternative, then I will buy a copy of your upcoming book, &quot;SAS ODS Graphics Designer: An Interactive Graph Builder&quot; and literally eat a page from it. Actually, I&#039;ll probably buy it in any case :&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sanjay,</p>
<p>Thanks for making the trip over here to post your comments. </p>
<p>I think it would be great to know the use case that the requesting user had in mind. I will bet you that there is a better alternative. And if there is a better alternative, then shouldn&#8217;t we suggest it to them? Isn&#8217;t that &#8220;The Power to Know&#8221;?</p>
<p>If there isn&#8217;t a better alternative, then I will buy a copy of your upcoming book, &#8220;SAS ODS Graphics Designer: An Interactive Graph Builder&#8221; and literally eat a page from it. Actually, I&#8217;ll probably buy it in any case :></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bar chart with a log axis, &#8220;NEVER&#8221;! says the Biz Intel Guru by Sanjay Matange</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/bar-chart-with-a-log-axis-never-says-the-biz-intel-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay Matange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of my post was to investigate if it was possible to create a bar chart with log response axis using SG procedures.   As  mention in my post, one cannot use a log axis with the SGPLOT VBAR statement.  

But I assume the requesting users has a valid reason to do what they want, and I am investigating avenues to acheive such a result..  After all, you can do almost anything with Annotate anyway.   Note:  We also provide pie charts and dot plots.  :-)

It is good, however, that John has stepped forward with a discussion of not how, but if such a plot should be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of my post was to investigate if it was possible to create a bar chart with log response axis using SG procedures.   As  mention in my post, one cannot use a log axis with the SGPLOT VBAR statement.  </p>
<p>But I assume the requesting users has a valid reason to do what they want, and I am investigating avenues to acheive such a result..  After all, you can do almost anything with Annotate anyway.   Note:  We also provide pie charts and dot plots.  <img src='http://bzintelguru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It is good, however, that John has stepped forward with a discussion of not how, but if such a plot should be used.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bar chart with a log axis, &#8220;NEVER&#8221;! says the Biz Intel Guru by John Munoz</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/bar-chart-with-a-log-axis-never-says-the-biz-intel-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-4620</link>
		<dc:creator>John Munoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful comment Jamie. You&#039;re right, for this specific set of data, a bar chart (without the log axis) would be appropriate.

The point I was trying to get across related to Sanjay&#039;s desire to use an appropriate chart for data with large differences in values. For that, a bar chart typically isn&#039;t appropriate, and a dot plot may be a better alternative.

I&#039;ll stick to my guns on NEVER using a log axis on a bar chart. The reason this should be a hard and fast rule is because, good info visualizers don&#039;t present graphs that break a rule that most of us learned in 2nd grade. The bar chart is so effective because humans are really good at comparing the heights of the bars. As long as the difference in the bar heights is kept absolute (2x height difference is 2x value difference), then no one gets hurt. Once you break that relationship between bar height and bar value, then you really ought to move onto another chart type, or a table. Explaining graphs is kind of like explaining jokes, if you have to do it, it&#039;s probably pretty bad.

Logging the scale creates the kind of dissonance that those orange freight trucks with the yellow logo create. 

&lt;img src=&quot;http://bzintelguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/yellow.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Yellow logo&quot; /&gt;

While it may be great for &quot;Yellow&quot; to turn our expectations upside down, it&#039;s probably not something you want to do to your audience when they read your chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful comment Jamie. You&#8217;re right, for this specific set of data, a bar chart (without the log axis) would be appropriate.</p>
<p>The point I was trying to get across related to Sanjay&#8217;s desire to use an appropriate chart for data with large differences in values. For that, a bar chart typically isn&#8217;t appropriate, and a dot plot may be a better alternative.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick to my guns on NEVER using a log axis on a bar chart. The reason this should be a hard and fast rule is because, good info visualizers don&#8217;t present graphs that break a rule that most of us learned in 2nd grade. The bar chart is so effective because humans are really good at comparing the heights of the bars. As long as the difference in the bar heights is kept absolute (2x height difference is 2x value difference), then no one gets hurt. Once you break that relationship between bar height and bar value, then you really ought to move onto another chart type, or a table. Explaining graphs is kind of like explaining jokes, if you have to do it, it&#8217;s probably pretty bad.</p>
<p>Logging the scale creates the kind of dissonance that those orange freight trucks with the yellow logo create. </p>
<p><img src="http://bzintelguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/yellow.jpg" alt="Yellow logo" /></p>
<p>While it may be great for &#8220;Yellow&#8221; to turn our expectations upside down, it&#8217;s probably not something you want to do to your audience when they read your chart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bar chart with a log axis, &#8220;NEVER&#8221;! says the Biz Intel Guru by Jamie</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/bar-chart-with-a-log-axis-never-says-the-biz-intel-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-4619</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is wrong to say &#039;never&#039; here.

This data set is not appropriate for a log scale, clearly.
A log scale is designed to compare values that have orders of magnitude of difference.  This data does not.

With the right data, and for the right audience, a bar chart with a log scale can be appropriate.

In this case, I also wouldn&#039;t bother with going the dot plot route, although I wouldn&#039;t say it is wrong either.
But this data is perfectly acceptable data for just a simple straightforward bar chart. It would show the differences between the vehicles extremely well, and remain quite simple and clear in a way that any viewer can instantly understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is wrong to say &#8216;never&#8217; here.</p>
<p>This data set is not appropriate for a log scale, clearly.<br />
A log scale is designed to compare values that have orders of magnitude of difference.  This data does not.</p>
<p>With the right data, and for the right audience, a bar chart with a log scale can be appropriate.</p>
<p>In this case, I also wouldn&#8217;t bother with going the dot plot route, although I wouldn&#8217;t say it is wrong either.<br />
But this data is perfectly acceptable data for just a simple straightforward bar chart. It would show the differences between the vehicles extremely well, and remain quite simple and clear in a way that any viewer can instantly understand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bar chart with a non-zero baseline? &quot;Never&quot;! says Biz Intel Guru. Here&#039;s why&#8230; by Chris Read</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of your line chart, which is intending to show the unemployment trend, I don&#039;t think you should be plotting the direct unemployment values. It would be far better to plot the change in unemployment, using 2007 as your zero base. This removes the &#039;visual lies&#039; (with the non-zero base) and confirms the fact that the objective of the line chart is to show the trend (change in unemployment between 2007 and 2012).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of your line chart, which is intending to show the unemployment trend, I don&#8217;t think you should be plotting the direct unemployment values. It would be far better to plot the change in unemployment, using 2007 as your zero base. This removes the &#8216;visual lies&#8217; (with the non-zero base) and confirms the fact that the objective of the line chart is to show the trend (change in unemployment between 2007 and 2012).</p>
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		<title>Comment on SAS and Twitter&#8211;how to harness SAS to grab data from Twitter in 2 easy steps by John Munoz</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/sas-and-twitter-how-to-harness-sas-to-grab-data-from-twitter-in-2-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-3124</link>
		<dc:creator>John Munoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kristen,

From what I&#039;ve read and know about Twitter&#039;s API, there is no way to go back more than 1 week or x number of Tweets using Twitter&#039;s own API. However, I think there are some sites on the web that will let you hop in a time machine and exceed Twitter&#039;s thresholds. One is snapbird.org

To search for a specific subject, say you want to find recent tweets with the word &#039;Eagles&#039; in it, the string would look like this:
http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=%40Eagles

Details about the search api are at: https://dev.twitter.com/docs/using-search

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristen,</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read and know about Twitter&#8217;s API, there is no way to go back more than 1 week or x number of Tweets using Twitter&#8217;s own API. However, I think there are some sites on the web that will let you hop in a time machine and exceed Twitter&#8217;s thresholds. One is snapbird.org</p>
<p>To search for a specific subject, say you want to find recent tweets with the word &#8216;Eagles&#8217; in it, the string would look like this:<br />
<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=%40Eagles" rel="nofollow">http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=%40Eagles</a></p>
<p>Details about the search api are at: <a href="https://dev.twitter.com/docs/using-search" rel="nofollow">https://dev.twitter.com/docs/using-search</a></p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>Comment on SAS and Twitter&#8211;how to harness SAS to grab data from Twitter in 2 easy steps by Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THanks for this code.  I am new to using XML code though.  Can you explain what I need to do to get the rest of a twitter user&#039;s tweets?  In other words, how can I go back more than a week?  Also, how would I search for a subject on Twitter (if I don&#039;t want to look up tweets from one user)?

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THanks for this code.  I am new to using XML code though.  Can you explain what I need to do to get the rest of a twitter user&#8217;s tweets?  In other words, how can I go back more than a week?  Also, how would I search for a subject on Twitter (if I don&#8217;t want to look up tweets from one user)?</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on SAS and Twitter&#8211;how to harness SAS to grab data from Twitter in 2 easy steps by SAS Portal: How to Follow Tweets &#8230; &#124; BI Notes for SAS BI Users</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/blog/sas-and-twitter-how-to-harness-sas-to-grab-data-from-twitter-in-2-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-3059</link>
		<dc:creator>SAS Portal: How to Follow Tweets &#8230; &#124; BI Notes for SAS BI Users</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Munoz wrote this blog entry on using SAS to analyze the tweets. He provides a really excellent overview about how to tap into the stream and  even provides the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Munoz wrote this blog entry on using SAS to analyze the tweets. He provides a really excellent overview about how to tap into the stream and  even provides the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to build a Twitter Empire like Guy Kawasaki&#8211;4 simple steps&#8211;Infographic by 7 hábitos de personas altamente efectivas en Twitter &#171; Efecto Halo</title>
		<link>http://bzintelguru.com/headline/4-key-tweeting-attributes-of-guy-kawasaki-in-one-infographic/comment-page-1/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>7 hábitos de personas altamente efectivas en Twitter &#171; Efecto Halo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Descubra y clarifique sus valores y objetivos. Qué está buscando lograr en Twitter? Piense en Guy Kawasaki y su estrategia de Twitter. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Descubra y clarifique sus valores y objetivos. Qué está buscando lograr en Twitter? Piense en Guy Kawasaki y su estrategia de Twitter. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on SAS and Twitter&#8211;how to harness SAS to grab data from Twitter in 2 easy steps by Mauricio Jaramillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauricio Jaramillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, Hi
Just found your post and tried your code, it works great. 
When I tried it first I changed the search term and made the mistake of erasing part of the code as I shown it here:
Right:
from%3Aguykawasaki
Wrong
from%3guykawasaki
Great post, thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, Hi<br />
Just found your post and tried your code, it works great.<br />
When I tried it first I changed the search term and made the mistake of erasing part of the code as I shown it here:<br />
Right:<br />
from%3Aguykawasaki<br />
Wrong<br />
from%3guykawasaki<br />
Great post, thank you</p>
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